when you actually think about context the "vader reveal" scene in the first star wars trilogy was the stupidest thing ever. were watching a movie about good vs. evil and super powered telepaths and suddenly we get "hey luke has a father and its vader'. but who, in regards to actual plot of the movie at that time and date, was even asking about lukes father? it would be like introducing han solo as palpatines nephew.
let me ask you this, while watching "die hard" would you really be thinking about who the guys uncle or father was? or his kids? no. now what if i told you that kid the cop shot WAS his kid?
contrived. that is what the vader reveal was. contrived from a point no person ever brought up once in the movie. so they could build drama.
also it was only so lucas could bring the point of leah later, but then why make them kiss?
its like when you are watching a movie and they suddenly throw out the plot to bring in a new one with a completely new villain with zero back story that they never touch on and who was never mentioned once in the entire movie. then they never touch that villain again.
without knowing whether luke cares about his dad all we saw was that he hated vader. and that vader killed his dad. then vader was his dad. so with no character development for luke over his feelings for his father lukes reaction makes no sense. if i told you i had an eighteen inch penis would you be like "no! thats impossible!" or be more like "prove it b!@#$"? luke knew vader was evil and that dark side users were manipulative, so why even believe him. also vader just cut off his hand and then offered help.
if someone punched me in the d!@# and then offered me a ham sandwich you can sure as hell bet THIS would be MY first reaction:
for the best perspective imagine if during the climax of infinity war dr doom showed up, punched thanos in the face, stole the gauntlet, then teleported away. then everyone turned to dust, and in endgame the avengers were after thanos because he snapped half the universe away and he claimed he destroyed the stones.
the vader reveal came at a time and during the second movie, with no mention of lukes parents, or his father, with the only mentioning it one being obi wan but yet fails to mention leah. you get over an hour in the movie and then theyre like "oh yeah, luke had a father, bet you werent thinking about that with that big battle for hoth and all".
yes people wondered just who vader was, because of the mask, that is what masks do. if you walk around with a group of people and one person who always goes by a pen name wears a mask everywhere, eventually youll be driven nuts over who that person really is. specially when they keep buying you taco bell and randomly stealing your hats.
but just out of nowhere being like "hey vader is lukes father" came from NOWHERE, it LITERALLY was something that NOBODY was thinking about. and i get it, everyone is like "THATS WHY IT WORKS! SHUT UP YOUR JUST A JEALOUS IDIOT! YOU DIDNT THINK OF IT FIRST!" well i was also negative 19 years old when that movie came out, so shut up before i slap you with my non existent prezygote semen tail.
and also that is why it DOESNT work. having a reveal that is set up through out the movie but is subtly hinted at with things you only see when rewatching like fifty times isnt a good reveal. spoiler warning?
the reveal in the saw franchise that there was more than one jigsaw and there had been the entire time was always set up and brilliant. the reveal that detective pikachu was the dad was hinted at so hard if you were blind and dumb you should have seen it, but was a good plot twist. the twist in scream that there was a second killer, smart and not many saw that coming. the plot behind the elder wand, pschotic but incredibly brilliant. cars 2 plot twist with the villain being on full display and only being revealed at the last second was great [i know people hate that movie but spy thrillers are generally great movies].
but the vader reveal had no buildup, not in the sense of viewer expectations. it was kind of like killing nemos mother and then never touching on that point literally ever again. "then who would YOU make vader?" i hear you say. that is NOT my point, my point is that if you are to reveal someone like vader as lukes father then, first of all dont use the dutch term for father, cause that just makes things obvious.
but more importantly ACTUALLY MENTION LUKES FATHER MORE THAN THREE TIMES. we as viewers were not watching that movie with any kind of knowledge that luke even CARED for his father, let alone KNEW HIM. we know luke knew OF him, but nothing more.
thats like a horror movie having characters being like "hey theres this monster"
protagonist: what kind?
"its a monster. its this thing that does this stuff to these things and they all ended up looking like that whatever"
then a rabbit hops out the bushes
"thats it! thats the monster!"
and with that i leave you with the monster from this story:
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